“I was hulling moonshine, you know, whiskey to little towns around North Wilkesboro, Charlotte, Greensboro—all around North Carolina, it was a night time job and I’d run into police and you’d out run them. That’s how it all got started.
“We fixed our cars to make bigger horse power motors, to make sure and outrun the revenuers. They had regular cars and that’s how we learned to beat other drivers on the race track. I think when more of the moon shiners got into racing, it made better and better.
“Some of the moonshine races were some of the best races I ever had.
The sport of NASCAR has changed tremendously since then. It’s the most popular sport in the world and they’ve been so many changes. The rules have changed so much and some of them I don’t agree with and others I do.
“When I was coming up it was a rough neck type of sport, we grew up fighting and carrying on.
“In my day if their was a dispute, we handled it like men, our disputes weren’t settled in the newspaper or through the media. All these rules are beating the guys down to where they’re not able to be the manly types we used to be.”

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